An IM conversation about manifesting.

I was doing some research, trying to find words for how to go about manifesting. In the middle of that research, I had a couple of conversations that are worth reporting just as they happenned.

paul_hunt3: what can you tell me about the art of manifesting?
svava thornson: I think manifesting gets faster as you get more practice
paul_hunt3: how do you start?
svava thornson: by hopeing for things
svava thornson: and then working towards making them happen
paul_hunt3: so it is quite natural
svava thornson: prayer is a huge organized religion way of telling people how to manifest
svava thornson: you tell them. You can have anything you want (most of the time) but you have to tell people, even if it's just between yourself and the powers that be
svava thornson: and then you have to act in accordance to make that happen
paul_hunt3: it helps if you have pre charged your social environment
svava thornson: yes
svava thornson: but that comes with practice too
svava thornson: if everyone is used to you getting what you ask for, they just assume that if you've asked it's going to happen so they do it or act like it has already happened
paul_hunt3: acting as if...
paul_hunt3: another magic piece
svava thornson: when I mentioned to Emoe that you guys were looking to start a restaurant or wanted someone else to, somewhere in it I mentioned IF and he corrected me and said "WHEN!, it is your parents who want it"
paul_hunt3: that is a charged example
svava thornson: ya
svava thornson: but most people know that if you really want something you get it
svava thornson: even if it involves you making it happen
svava thornson: especially if it involves you making it happen
paul_hunt3: it boils down to expectations
paul_hunt3: faith
paul_hunt3: if you don't expect it to happen, you don't invest in it
svava thornson: and neither will anyone else
paul_hunt3: the converse works too
svava thornson: very much so
paul_hunt3 : I just copied all this into my worksheet
paul_hunt3 : I'm doing a report on manifesting
svava thornson : oh?
paul_hunt3 : george breed asked me to
svava thornson : what else do you know about it?
paul_hunt3 : i found about 4 links to good websites that teach it
paul_hunt3 : amber and i took a manifesting class in 99 and it changed both of our lives
svava thornson : remember when we read the reluctant messiah together
paul_hunt3 : yea
svava thornson : that had almost everything to do with manifesting
paul_hunt3 : very much
svava thornson : although it was a fantasy book that explained it best to me
paul_hunt3 : which?
svava thornson : it was somewhere in the rift series
svava thornson : there was this old crazy magician who insisted there was no magic
svava thornson : which was charming and all but way down the line. he explained to the main character why there was no magic
paul_hunt3 : yes?
svava thornson : and it involved him describing something similar to subatomic particles, or the energy that holds it together and communicating with them
svava thornson : it is what everything is made up of, EVERYTHING
svava thornson : and if you ask them to they'll do anything you want
svava thornson : it wasn't magic, it was communication
svava thornson : but the way he described it really made anything at all possible
paul_hunt3 : Ahhhh
svava thornson : and all you had to do was communicate (manifest)svava thornson: and when I do reiki or those kinds of things what they teach you to do is to communicate with the very essence of energy, at the level in which it holds all things together
svava thornson : they teach you that energy follows intention. . or where/what you are thinking about
paul_hunt3 : that explains the power of attention
svava thornson : you can literally create, destroy, restructure anything simply with energy manipulation, although I prefer to communicate and ask rather than manipulate
paul_hunt3 : the essence of the art
svava thornson : magic actual magic not parlor tricks is whole heartedly possible
svava thornson : but few do it because they don't believe they can, or they don't want to deal with the consequences
paul_hunt3 : but as you say, it's not magic
svava thornson : right
svava thornson : but it could easily look like it
svava thornson : and people could study and learn to do "magic" without understanding what it actually is
svava thornson : ritual can be very powerful
paul_hunt3 : ritual encodes expectations
svava thornson : yes
svava thornson : if you do this, and believe this will happen because of it. . .
svava thornson : you'll be posting your report on manifesting right?
paul_hunt3 : yup
paul_hunt3 : part of my report might be this conversation
svava thornson : cool
svava thornson : I'd like to see the websites on it too
paul_hunt3 :A book called "Beginner's guide to manifesting
paul_hunt3 : INNERLIGHT the art of manifesting (comes with meditation music)
paul_hunt3 : unifying.com/manifesting
paul_hunt3 : A different channel on the topic